Bimbotondo said: Not yet. I am waiting for their answer hoping that they are reasonable.
I know they have swapped in the past for some, but I would have kept quiet about it. If they see you have posted on the forum they will know that they will get smashed for requests from others, so will probably not be inclined to assist you.
Just curious how many people complaining about the drop rates keep a record of every single pack they open?
If they did in the past I don't see why there should be a problem in adopting this policy. and of course we are talking of duplicates. But since it's weekend, they will assist me on Monday if they are not too busy, which means that in any case it will be too late for the finals I am serene about it, I am offering them a civil discussion, despite being disappointed by my drop rate.
No matter how many anecdotal evidences of low trophy players with legendaries are produced, it will never have any significance whatsoever. Of course these are the ones drawing attention and being talked about. But for each of these, how many low trophy garages with horrible or even normal pulls? Probably tons, but we do not know.
Until an independent audit is conducted this discussion is sadly meaningless. Still useful to vent frustrations and share bad streaks though.
And no legendary after 50, or even 100 CF is horrible, but well within the range of acceptable possible outcomes. If on average you get 1 leggy every c.33 packs, then yeah there will be long (possibly very long) streaks without. And then some groupings as well where you get 2 or 3 within close proximity.
Also, newbie garages with several S or A cars are definitely a result of the infinite amount of packs available (whether normal CFs or specific premium packs, eg infinite ER premium packs available in this final).
Also, newbie garages with several S or A cars are definitely a result of the infinite amount of packs available (whether normal CFs or specific premium packs, eg infinite ER premium packs available in this final).
Hands with 2x ER legend, 2x UR and a rare clearly show there hasnt been many packs bought if the 5th card isnt even a superrare. And there are quite some guys with hands like these. Ofcourse this proofs nothing, but reminds me of the IR update where the RNG seemed to favor low trophys and we had a similar discussion.
Hutch, proof us wrong. With such high revenue in a casino type game an independent audit would only be fair and also help to end this discussion. Not responding leaves room for interpretation.
For me after opening 150 packs without a single legendary (all recorded) , players opening 15 ER packs and the elite pack won’t get this amount of legendaries, but in reality every low trophy player in my bracket and other bracket has atleast 1 or more legendary only from 15 packs and the elite pack and I’m sure they didn’t opened all the 15 packs , and what happens in the final? Throw two drags to make it impossible for high trophy players to compete!
OMG they saw our thread and boosted our drop rates😂😂 so the drop rates makes someone lucky pulling 3 legends in 15 packs while zero legends from 150 packs for some players (including me)
I don't believe this person for a second, unless a video of the openings was included. Too many people on that group and the I/G forum lying about drops from X packs.
Not sure if there's a explanation but anyone notice players have legendarys from the era they joined . You can almost guess a person's trophies count just by looking at there best hands .
Surely drop rates dont relate to the type of legendries you win especially for whales playing from a long time would they not have a fair spread .
Yet low trophies newbies get all the new cars and old whales make do with dreggs and a stable of classic legendarys that by design are made redundant .... because .... Well financial reasons .... for ...erm ... management
The usual explanation for these Is along the lines of “there are loads more low-trophy players giving a skewed perspective”. Maybe hutch could give us a breakdown of players vs trophies? Just as a percentage if they don’t want to give out any player numbers for whatever reason.
I don't believe this person for a second, unless a video of the openings was included. Too many people on that group and the I/G forum lying about drops from X packs.
Case in point....
The picture I’ve posted is not nemesis, we all know nemesis spends thousands to get whatever he wants, the image I posted for a player in my friends bracket and yes he got 3 legends and an epic from 15 packs
I don't believe this person for a second, unless a video of the openings was included. Too many people on that group and the I/G forum lying about drops from X packs.
Case in point....
And as someone who likes to softtroll too sometimes, you maybe shouldnt believe every igf post you read, because this time you got trolled. He posted 3 of the legends maxed before any finals packs available.
I don't believe this person for a second, unless a video of the openings was included. Too many people on that group and the I/G forum lying about drops from X packs.
Case in point....
The picture I’ve posted is not nemesis, we all know nemesis spends thousands to get whatever he wants, the image I posted for a player in my friends bracket and yes he got 3 legends and an epic from 15 packs
Opened 3 more so 5 ER carbons in total, return is 4 UR's, 1 low rq epic spyker, 1 legendary Rimac, "excluding the legendary Egg from a random ceramic". Tiny sample size but above expected from a 1000+ day, 50k trophy player. I maintain the drops are random rather than screwed towards new players. Its just a matter of probability, and sometimes you just go on a bad run.
Question to anyone .... if you don't believe the drop rates, and think that Hutch caters to certain players (whether you believe it is whales or new players), why continue to play? Aren't you just punishing yourself for continuing with something you hate?
Question to anyone .... if you don't believe the drop rates, and think that Hutch caters to certain players (whether you believe it is whales or new players), why continue to play? Aren't you just punishing yourself for continuing with something you hate?
Sadomasochism mate, some of us like a good bit of punishment 😂😂
Question to anyone .... if you don't believe the drop rates, and think that Hutch caters to certain players (whether you believe it is whales or new players), why continue to play? Aren't you just punishing yourself for continuing with something you hate?
Sunken costs trap, addiction and I simply adore people I'm playing with.
Also the game itself is pretty damn fun during its best moments
Question to anyone .... if you don't believe the drop rates, and think that Hutch caters to certain players (whether you believe it is whales or new players), why continue to play? Aren't you just punishing yourself for continuing with something you hate?
Very inappropriate comment , me and other old players asking hutch for clarification about drop rates with a decent discussion about it especially my drop rates after 150 carbon fiber openings, Its little rude from you to tell me or anyone to leave the game because you didn’t like the discussion or because you defend hutch everytime and anytime even in normal discussions, so please if you have anything good to say let us know other than that please keep it decent:)
Im a kinda new player, start at the beginning of august. Opened 15 pack +1 all european revolution packs, and didnt get any legendary, but I got 4 same spyker (A75), and 2 same donkervoort (the black one B62), 3 De tomaso Guara B60, 4 De tomaso Guara B58, 3 De tomaso pantera SI B54, I would more happy if I got legendary or more different cars, not this many duplicates.
In this case I would say as a new player I didnt get boost.
But I opened 40 ceramic (4x10)
Got 4 Epic, 13 ultra Rare, and today, I need a fuse material, and need one super rare, so I bought a ceramic, got ultra rare instead of C, bought one more, and got an Epic A77 Dodge, and the third finally give me a C for fuse. Also today I bought 3 Carbon Fibre and got 2 Epic 2 ultra rare. So in this case I feel a little boosted.
But still, Im not sure what can makes me more happy, getting a legendary and normal opening, or this opening result and no Legendary.
Question to anyone .... if you don't believe the drop rates, and think that Hutch caters to certain players (whether you believe it is whales or new players), why continue to play? Aren't you just punishing yourself for continuing with something you hate?
Very inappropriate comment , me and other old players asking hutch for clarification about drop rates with a decent discussion about it especially my drop rates after 150 carbon fiber openings, Its little rude from you to tell me or anyone to leave the game because you didn’t like the discussion or because you defend hutch everytime and anytime even in normal discussions, so please if you have anything good to say let us know other than that please keep it decent:)
You read a little too much into it. I just asked a question. The two players before you had fun answering it, so why take offense?
I’ll ask another question and follow it up with the answer I already know, but no one will admit. If Hutch has their drop rates audited, would anyone believe that Hutch didn’t provide a ringer auditor or that Hutch didn’t skew the results for the auditor’s account? No, they wouldn’t, the narrative would change and players would find another reason to say Hutch was doing something sneaky with their game on the backend.
Question to anyone .... if you don't believe the drop rates, and think that Hutch caters to certain players (whether you believe it is whales or new players), why continue to play? Aren't you just punishing yourself for continuing with something you hate?
Very inappropriate comment , me and other old players asking hutch for clarification about drop rates with a decent discussion about it especially my drop rates after 150 carbon fiber openings, Its little rude from you to tell me or anyone to leave the game because you didn’t like the discussion or because you defend hutch everytime and anytime even in normal discussions, so please if you have anything good to say let us know other than that please keep it decent:)
- What is inappropriate about it? It was a question. - He never said to anyone to leave the game. - You are assuming he does not like the discussion? Why is he participating then? - It is called having a viewpoint. Just because he does not agree with you or he appears to agree with hutch makes no difference.
Question to anyone .... if you don't believe the drop rates, and think that Hutch caters to certain players (whether you believe it is whales or new players), why continue to play? Aren't you just punishing yourself for continuing with something you hate?
Imagine buying a project car .... sinking a couple of grand in it ... but it still sucks .
Do you scrap it and lose everything you put in .... or hope one day it comes good 😒🤔
Question to anyone .... if you don't believe the drop rates, and think that Hutch caters to certain players (whether you believe it is whales or new players), why continue to play? Aren't you just punishing yourself for continuing with something you hate?
Imagine buying a project car .... sinking a couple of grand in it ... but it still sucks .
Do you scrap it and lose everything you put in .... or hope one day it comes good 😒🤔
Is the car working against you, to ensure that it stays a terrible car? That is what is being suggested here.
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Of course these are the ones drawing attention and being talked about. But for each of these, how many low trophy garages with horrible or even normal pulls? Probably tons, but we do not know.
And no legendary after 50, or even 100 CF is horrible, but well within the range of acceptable possible outcomes. If on average you get 1 leggy every c.33 packs, then yeah there will be long (possibly very long) streaks without. And then some groupings as well where you get 2 or 3 within close proximity.
Also, newbie garages with several S or A cars are definitely a result of the infinite amount of packs available (whether normal CFs or specific premium packs, eg infinite ER premium packs available in this final).
*Image from facebook group
Case in point....
You can almost guess a person's trophies count just by looking at there best hands .
Surely drop rates dont relate to the type of legendries you win especially for whales playing from a long time would they not have a fair spread .
Yet low trophies newbies get all the new cars and old whales make do with dreggs and a stable of classic legendarys that by design are made redundant .... because .... Well financial reasons .... for ...erm ... management
And as someone who likes to softtroll too sometimes, you maybe shouldnt believe every igf post you read, because this time you got trolled. He posted 3 of the legends maxed before any finals packs available.
I maintain the drops are random rather than screwed towards new players. Its just a matter of probability, and sometimes you just go on a bad run.
In this case I would say as a new player I didnt get boost.
But I opened 40 ceramic (4x10)
Got 4 Epic, 13 ultra Rare, and today, I need a fuse material, and need one super rare, so I bought a ceramic, got ultra rare instead of C, bought one more, and got an Epic A77 Dodge, and the third finally give me a C for fuse. Also today I bought 3 Carbon Fibre and got 2 Epic 2 ultra rare. So in this case I feel a little boosted.
But still, Im not sure what can makes me more happy, getting a legendary and normal opening, or this opening result and no Legendary.
I really dont know.
I’ll ask another question and follow it up with the answer I already know, but no one will admit. If Hutch has their drop rates audited, would anyone believe that Hutch didn’t provide a ringer auditor or that Hutch didn’t skew the results for the auditor’s account? No, they wouldn’t, the narrative would change and players would find another reason to say Hutch was doing something sneaky with their game on the backend.
- He never said to anyone to leave the game.
- You are assuming he does not like the discussion? Why is he participating then?
- It is called having a viewpoint. Just because he does not agree with you or he appears to agree with hutch makes no difference.
older player have already some S, so they may need more time to wait before the next drop.
Do you scrap it and lose everything you put in .... or hope one day it comes good 😒🤔