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  • rkorallerkoralle Posts: 813 ✭✭✭
    OMG!
    Maybe there you can see worst mra in the game?
  • bluedogsnoopbluedogsnoop Posts: 994 ✭✭✭✭✭
    rkoralle said:
    OMG!
    Maybe there you can see worst mra in the game?
    76 MRA vs 52 MRA
    Also the top speed of the VW is higher which can be fundamental on Fast Circuit

    The 78RQ Peugeot 308 R HYbrid has MRA of 49.66 so not the worst, but both definitely cars for grip centric events.
  • NicooooooNicoooooo Posts: 65 ✭✭

    That the escort wins, is a surprise for me, but by this much, it seems weird 
  • rkorallerkoralle Posts: 813 ✭✭✭
    I did not expect this!

  • TopDrives34865TopDrives34865 Posts: 135 ✭✭✭
    edited December 2020
    that was... unexpected (Alfa is lighter of course, both 969)
  • HeissRodHeissRod Posts: 7,921 ✭✭✭✭✭
    RWD > FWD
  • AslanVAslanV Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭
    And 0-60 too. It does impact as the 323 is wining over the 233
  • REALAISREALAIS Posts: 910 ✭✭✭✭
    HeissRod said:
    RWD > FWD
    Since when that matters on dry asphalt?
  • TopDrives34865TopDrives34865 Posts: 135 ✭✭✭
    REALAIS said:
    HeissRod said:
    RWD > FWD
    Since when that matters on dry asphalt?
    I wanted to ask that too 😅
  • willcf15willcf15 Posts: 445 ✭✭✭✭
    REALAIS said:
    HeissRod said:
    RWD > FWD
    Since when that matters on dry asphalt?
    I wanted to ask that too 😅

    I think this one actually comes down to acceleration curves - the Alfa is slow relative to its 0-60 time off the line (i.e. its 0-30 is on the slow slide relative to other cars with a similar 0-60 stat), which has inflated importance on slalom test
  • willcf15willcf15 Posts: 445 ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2020
    Nicoooooo said:

    That the escort wins, is a surprise for me, but by this much, it seems weird 


    ETB

    This is more noticeable on twisty road because there's a small hill - if you watch the race, you can watch cars with low Engine Traction Bonus barely make the climb on ice/snow/sand/dirt
  • TopDrives34865TopDrives34865 Posts: 135 ✭✭✭
    willcf15 said:
    REALAIS said:
    HeissRod said:
    RWD > FWD
    Since when that matters on dry asphalt?
    I wanted to ask that too 😅

    I think this one actually comes down to acceleration curves - the Alfa is slow relative to its 0-60 time off the line (i.e. its 0-30 is on the slow slide relative to other cars with a similar 0-60 stat), which has inflated importance on slalom test
    Smart thinking. This would make more sense to me. Thank you :)
  • ojlerouxojleroux Posts: 185 ✭✭✭
    edited December 2020
    This cannot be true! Forester is faster than ct6

  • REALAISREALAIS Posts: 910 ✭✭✭✭
    ojleroux said:
    This cannot be true! Forester is faster than ct6

    High ground clearence. You need that in offroad Twisty road. There is uphill sections in there.
  • ojlerouxojleroux Posts: 185 ✭✭✭
    REALAIS said:
    ojleroux said:
    This cannot be true! Forester is faster than ct6

    High ground clearence. You need that in offroad Twisty road. There is uphill sections in there.
    Your explanation makes sense, but how you argue following comparison (same Tracks):
    Jaguar X-Type Medium Clearance 2:44,25
    Mazda CX-9 High Clearance 2:44,82
    Both have nearly same stats, only the Mazda is 400kg heavier.

    In uphill I thought more weight is better, in twisty sections is less weight better. Maybee the weight difference is also important here. (also Forester is almost 500kg lighter than CT6) 

    Just it was very surprisingly for me, the stats are much better for CT6.
  • AslanVAslanV Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭
    I agree with RELAIS, you should see the result of the Mercedes CLA (4x4 std) on uphill snow comparing to any 4x4 std medium.

    After, the CX-9 have a lot less grip, so :/
  • rkorallerkoralle Posts: 813 ✭✭✭
    Normally those superlight cars dont do that good in fast tracks???

  • rkorallerkoralle Posts: 813 ✭✭✭
    Not unexpected, just showing how overrated the zonda ist ( slick tyres)...
    Both 333
  • ATSR_997ATSR_997 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭✭✭
    .....



  • TD42792TD42792 Posts: 2,444 ✭✭✭✭✭
    rkoralle said:
    Not unexpected, just showing how overrated the zonda ist ( slick tyres)...
    Both 333
    Exactly. And slalom is supposed to be where it shines vs other hypercars of similar rq...
  • TopDrives40778TopDrives40778 Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭✭✭
    TD42792 said:
    rkoralle said:
    Not unexpected, just showing how overrated the zonda ist ( slick tyres)...
    Both 333
    Exactly. And slalom is supposed to be where it shines vs other hypercars of similar rq...
    This is Car Park
  • O__VERO__VER Posts: 2,184 ✭✭✭✭✭
    rkoralle said:
    Not unexpected, just showing how overrated the zonda ist ( slick tyres)...
    Both 333
    The only reason it is RQ97 instead of 95 or 96 is the top speed. Hutch's rather limited RQ defining process obviously factors test bowl in too heavily. Same reason why the DeZir and Miray were lower RQ and had to be manually adjusted – they have low top speed.
  • rkorallerkoralle Posts: 813 ✭✭✭
    Testbowl top speed is 210.
    The Mclaren could be faster but i don't know...
  • G_anlucaG_anluca Posts: 285 ✭✭✭

    RCT has minus 2 rq, is 333 vs 966, all stats worse (0.60, vMAX, handling, weight, power, torque) and... BTR2 is only .24 second ahead on 22km!
    Seriously wondering how your resolver works. Oh sorry... MRA...

    But MRA should be a parameter depending from power, weight an torque... how on earth a car that has more power, more torque and less weight can accelarate faster than a car that has less power, less torque and more weight?
  • AslanVAslanV Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭
    edited December 2020
    But MRA should be a parameter depending from power, weight an torque... how on earth a car that has more power, more torque and less weight can accelarate faster than a car that has less power, less torque and more weight?

    Gearing ?

    But i still agree with you :)
  • G_anlucaG_anluca Posts: 285 ✭✭✭
    AslanV said:
    But MRA should be a parameter depending from power, weight an torque... how on earth a car that has more power, more torque and less weight can accelarate faster than a car that has less power, less torque and more weight?

    Gearing ?

    But i still agree with you :)

    of course, but i believe gearing is not taken in conideation at all in the game
  • 0171801718 Posts: 570 ✭✭✭
    G_anluca said:
    AslanV said:
    But MRA should be a parameter depending from power, weight an torque... how on earth a car that has more power, more torque and less weight can accelarate faster than a car that has less power, less torque and more weight?

    Gearing ?

    But i still agree with you :)

    of course, but i believe gearing is not taken in conideation at all in the game

    Nothing is taken into consideration by the game. The game does not have a physics engine that works with any of the engine specific values given on the back of the card. Remember some cars don't even have those values (Lamborghini). The game seems to work with acceleration data which is fitted into curves.

    One important factor for MRA would be drag (aka air resistance), as this quadruples with speed. That is, in my humble opinion, the reason, why the curve fitting approach is so prone to errors. To quote wikipedia:

    "A car cruising on a highway at 50 mph (80 km/h) may require only 10 horsepower (7.5 kW) to overcome aerodynamic drag, but that same car at 100 mph (160 km/h) requires 80 hp (60 kW).[17] With a doubling of speed the drag (force) quadruples per the formula. Exerting 4 times the force over a fixed distance produces 4 times as much work. At twice the speed the work (resulting in displacement over a fixed distance) is done twice as fast. Since power is the rate of doing work, 4 times the work done in half the time requires 8 times the power."

    If data for higher points into the acceleration curve is not available, the curve becomes more and more unreliable.



  • AslanVAslanV Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭
    G_anluca said:
    AslanV said:
    But MRA should be a parameter depending from power, weight an torque... how on earth a car that has more power, more torque and less weight can accelarate faster than a car that has less power, less torque and more weight?

    Gearing ?

    But i still agree with you :)

    of course, but i believe gearing is not taken in conideation at all in the game
    As 01718, it is all about acceleration curve. And the gearing do impact the acceleration curve :) And actually is close to be the most impactful variable. If your car is setup for the 1/8 miles, then a less powerfull, heavy car can overcome you in a 1/2 miles.
  • Yama_sanYama_san Posts: 415 ✭✭✭
    Exact same car with stats 100% identical.


  • AslanVAslanV Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭
    Have you checked behind ?

    I know a guy who run a 1.3 2.1 1.3 McLaren 12C for fun
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