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RQ67 Peugot 207 S2000

thebigbadwolfthebigbadwolf Posts: 273 ✭✭✭
edited September 2020 in Car Corrections
Has slicks in the game, should be all-surface.

For the giggles (totally slicks):


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  • JaguarDTMJaguarDTM Posts: 449 ✭✭✭
    edited September 2020
    Should be off-road imo. However if it does get off-road tires beware that it'll possibly become Legendary and people will have these things maxed out (edited, forgot that this thing is low, how tf is it low?) 
  • PlantedZebraPlantedZebra Posts: 928 ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2020
    To be fair rally cars irl can change tyres, so it's kinda up to hutch to decide what to go for
  • thebigbadwolfthebigbadwolf Posts: 273 ✭✭✭
    To be fair rally cars irl can change tyres, now so it's kinda up to hutch to decide what to go for
    I don’t think so. The ability to change tyres is essential when it comes to rallying and that ability simply does not exist in the game. As they are most probably not going to add the function of changing tyres, all-surface tyres would be the next best solution to represent the tyre-changing-possibility which exists in the real world in the game.

    @JaguarDTM i have no idea why it is low in the game, just like the abarth 124 rally it makes absolutely no sense but i figured the tyres would be more important. 
  • JaguarDTMJaguarDTM Posts: 449 ✭✭✭
    I mean any car can change tires. You can put wet tires on a 787B but having a 787B on standards/perfs would be stupid
  • PlantedZebraPlantedZebra Posts: 928 ✭✭✭✭
    oh god imagine a 787b with standards
  • NinjaDesignzNinjaDesignz Posts: 3,179 ✭✭✭✭✭
    oh god imagine a 787b with standards
    I'd prefer my 787B with off-road tires.
  • JaguarDTMJaguarDTM Posts: 449 ✭✭✭
    Nah it should have all-surface tires because somehow the 787B was used in a race in 2019 for Pikes Peak, and ya know since Pikes Peak used to have a lot of off-road sections...
  • thebigbadwolfthebigbadwolf Posts: 273 ✭✭✭
    edited September 2020
    I d prefer this to stay focused on the car mentioned.
    Sure it is a fun discussion and imagining a 787 drifting through snow tracks on offroad tyres is amusing, but this should be about the Peugeot.
  • Leo250Leo250 Posts: 17
    Well, the same should apply to 208 r5, its also a rally car.
  • LittleEnosBurdetteLittleEnosBurdette Posts: 3,192 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It’s been mentioned before, but having 4wd car on slicks in the game makes no sense  
  • TD23088TD23088 Posts: 24 ✭✭
    This car is in the S2000 rally class with very specific rules. It runs on multiple surfaces so slicks will not work. There is a tarmac only division but those aren’t 4wd so they don’t run this model in that circuit. This car was made for the rally circuit. Also, the RQ 74 Abarth Grande Punto S2000 competes in the same class and this game has it on performance tires. Look at the specs of both cars, they should be nearly identical because they have to follow the same rules. They should both be on all surface tires. That is what they would have in real life. There is enough competition in the game to have these rally cars spec’d correctly. 

    The Peugeot 208 T16 R5 should be the same. They race on the same racing surfaces, same tracks. 
  • binnerbinner Posts: 793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I hate corrections like this so much. Surely would have to go legendary. The lucky few would have it maxed beforehand. Which I'm sure includes everyone here vouching for the change. 
  • thebigbadwolfthebigbadwolf Posts: 273 ✭✭✭
    binner said:
    I hate corrections like this so much. Surely would have to go legendary. The lucky few would have it maxed beforehand. Which I'm sure includes everyone here vouching for the change. 
    Throughout 3 years of playing, I have never benefited from Epic to legendary rarity changes, simply never had the cars going up in rarity. As i do in fact have this car, i highly doubt Hutch is going to change it, following the path my luck went so far.
  • binnerbinner Posts: 793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    binner said:
    I hate corrections like this so much. Surely would have to go legendary. The lucky few would have it maxed beforehand. Which I'm sure includes everyone here vouching for the change. 
    Throughout 3 years of playing, I have never benefited from Epic to legendary rarity changes, simply never had the cars going up in rarity. As i do in fact have this car, i highly doubt Hutch is going to change it, following the path my luck went so far.
    It's not a point of having the car or not. Cars moving from Epic to Legendary is game breaking and should be avoided at all costs. And if so hutch should look into the fuse token idea that was proposed last time contraversy came up from the topic. 15 epics compared to 15 ultras for a maxed car is a huge difference. 
  • PlantedZebraPlantedZebra Posts: 928 ✭✭✭✭
    Yeah, the way how hutch bumped up the RQ of the R500 without changing rarity was a really good move from them and would be nice if they keep doing it and not just a one-time thing
  • thebigbadwolfthebigbadwolf Posts: 273 ✭✭✭
    Totally agree with you. I have the R500 and i am not mad at all they bumped the RQ up, i think it is a fair solution for everyone
  • nodnarbnodnarb Posts: 20
    If they ever do change the tires on the 207 s2000 the 208 t16 r5 then they can bump the handling down 5-6 points and keep it in A class. That would put their grip on the same levels as the other 4wd off-road hatchbacks in A class. Keep them at low ride height and their naturally awful mra and I think they would fit fairly within A class.
  • JackyQuJackyQu Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭✭✭
    2011 Peugeot 207 S2000 Evolution   SuperCarsnet
    No, they are not gonna be changed
  • thebigbadwolfthebigbadwolf Posts: 273 ✭✭✭
    Another bookmark off my list.
  • LittleEnosBurdetteLittleEnosBurdette Posts: 3,192 ✭✭✭✭✭
    JackyQu said:
    2011 Peugeot 207 S2000 Evolution   SuperCarsnet
    No, they are not gonna be changed
    Are you part of the corrections team and that’s a fact you’re stating?
  • HeissRodHeissRod Posts: 8,023 ✭✭✭✭✭
    JackyQu said:
    2011 Peugeot 207 S2000 Evolution   SuperCarsnet
    No, they are not gonna be changed
    Are you part of the corrections team and that’s a fact you’re stating?
    yes to both
  • LittleEnosBurdetteLittleEnosBurdette Posts: 3,192 ✭✭✭✭✭
    HeissRod said:
    JackyQu said:
    2011 Peugeot 207 S2000 Evolution   SuperCarsnet
    No, they are not gonna be changed
    Are you part of the corrections team and that’s a fact you’re stating?
    yes to both
    Thanks, is there a specific reason why it isn’t being changed? Or just isn’t and that’s that. 
  • nodnarbnodnarb Posts: 20
    From what I’ve read, in the s2000 and r5 rally class, the tarmac tire they use must be the same for dry and wet conditions. I can’t imagine them using a racing slick on wet tarmac because their pilots would undoubtedly hydroplane and crash. The fia rule book keeps teams from running slicks too because the tarmac tires must have about 17% tread over the tires surface with a minimum of 5.5mm tread depth. The rule book states there is a list of homologated tires on the fia website, but I cannot find this list from 2014.
    Realistically I think these cars should be running performance tires.

    this is from the 2014 fia regulations, which would more accurately apply to the 2014 Peugeot 208 T16 R5, which is the predecessor to the 2007 207 s2000. (The R5 rally class is the renamed s2000 class). I believe these rules are unchanged for both of these cars.
    let me know what you guys think, this is how I interpreted these rules, maybe I missed something.
    https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/regulation/file/2014%20WRC%20Sporting%20Regs_all_30062014_0.pdf

  • JackyQuJackyQu Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2020
    nodnarb said:
    From what I’ve read, in the s2000 and r5 rally class, the tarmac tire they use must be the same for dry and wet conditions. I can’t imagine them using a racing slick on wet tarmac because their pilots would undoubtedly hydroplane and crash. The fia rule book keeps teams from running slicks too because the tarmac tires must have about 17% tread over the tires surface with a minimum of 5.5mm tread depth. The rule book states there is a list of homologated tires on the fia website, but I cannot find this list from 2014.
    Realistically I think these cars should be running performance tires.

    this is from the 2014 fia regulations, which would more accurately apply to the 2014 Peugeot 208 T16 R5, which is the predecessor to the 2007 207 s2000. (The R5 rally class is the renamed s2000 class). I believe these rules are unchanged for both of these cars.
    let me know what you guys think, this is how I interpreted these rules, maybe I missed something.
    https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/regulation/file/2014%20WRC%20Sporting%20Regs_all_30062014_0.pdf


    Even with these regulations, I don't think they can do as well as normal summer tires in rainy situations. Their treads were not designed for rain. Because the game doesn't have a 'semi-slick' category, no, this is not gonna be changed. Btw hard tires can do super bad in the rain

    https://www.michelinmotorsport.com/Tyres-Solutions/Rally
    Michelin tires for rally

    http://www.michelinmotorsport.com/content/download/22354/437140/file/Technique+Asphalte+EN.pdf
    This is the technical specification sheet for the Pilot Sport R Asphalt Tire
  • HeissRodHeissRod Posts: 8,023 ✭✭✭✭✭
    5.5mm of tread depth is near half of what street performance tires are new, so that is not equivalent. 

    As @JackyQu explained, this a semi-slick, but the game doesn't have the concept of a semi-slick.  It was Hutch's final decision to have this car run slick tires and that is not going to change.  I am closing this thread.
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